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Pharmakon 3: The Father and the Good

Spoken wisdom – the created organism – has a father. But what is a father?

Do we know? If we know, should we classify spoken wisdom as belonging to a father? Does this not confuse the matter? Does it not grant spoken wisdom attributes beyond reasonability?

But the father is not the real father of spoken wisdom. How can we distinguish a father/son relationship from a cause/effect, if not through spoken wisdom? Only speech can have a father. A father is always a father to a living being. What I am trying to say is that it is impossible to understand fatherhood without spoken wisdom. The term ‘father’ receives greater meaning from the term ‘spoken wisdom’ than vice versa. A father and a son are presented to us and relate to one another within the domain of spoken wisdom. Although we may think it, one cannot escape from this domain even when transported – via metaphor – to a place where one can meet fathers, sons, and other creatures which help explain what spoken wisdom is. ‘Father of spoken wisdom’ is by no means a simple metaphor. To make a simple metaphor, one would need to believe that a creature which cannot speak nonetheless has a father. This is, of course, attempting to reverse metaphorical directions so that we no longer ask whether spoken wisdom can have a father, but understand that what the father says he is the father of cannot exist without spoken wisdom.

What does it mean to say that spoken wisdom is indebted to a father?

Fathers, at least insofar as we are discussing them here, are good. A father is a leader, capital, resources. This is what is meant by the term ‘father’, and it provides considerable and unexpected complexity to our understanding. This is why Socrates suggests replacing good with good’s son:

‘Let us dismiss the notion of good,’ he says, ‘for I will not speak of it. But I will speak of its son, if you wish, or else we can drop the matter.’

To which we all replied: ‘Speak on, you can pay us with the story of good another time.’

‘I wish I could give you the payment,’ Socrates replied, ‘and not the interest. But anyway, take the interest and the son of good.’

Interest (here associated with the son of good) signifies both production and product, or to put it another way, birth and child. The term ‘son of good’ operates within the domain of agriculture, family, business. None of these domains – as we shall see – lie outside the domain of spoken wisdom.

Interest is a child, the brood, the fruits of seed sewn in a field, and the interest on an investment. Interest is a return.

It is impossible to speak simply or directly of a father, of good, of the origin of value and of living beings. To attempt to do so is like attempting to look directly at the sun – one will be bedazzled by the face one is directed towards. Says Socrates, who evokes the visible sun, the son who resembles his father: ‘When I spoke earlier of the son of good, of the being created in the image of good, I meant the sun. The visible sun has the same relation to vision and visible things as intelligent good does to intelligence and intelligible things.’

But how does spoken wisdom intercede between the father and the son?

The good is the origin of all entities, responsible for their creation and their relations with spoken wisdom, which both assembles and distinguishes them. As Socrates points out: ‘We say that beautiful things or good things are, and define them thus in our speech.’

Hence, the good – by which we mean father, sun, and capital – is the hidden, illuminating, bedazzling source of spoken wisdom. And because one cannot speak of that which permits us to speak (as we are forbidden to speak of it or to it) one will speak only of that which speaks and of that which one is speaking of. And further, because it is impossible to explain what spoken wisdom is accountable to, because capital cannot be counted and the chief cannot be looked directly in the eye, it is necessary to count up all interests, all returns, all products, all offspring. Remember, Socrates said: ‘I wish I could give you payment,’ he said, ‘and not the interest. But anyway, take the interest and the son of good.’

But we should also remember that he added: ‘Be careful, lest I deceive you with a false reckoning.’ Yes, we should remember that with all the good, Socrates also introduces the possibility of that which is falsified, adulterated, corrupted, deceptive, mendacious. ‘Be careful,’ he says, ‘lest I deceive you with a false reckoning.’

This recourse to spoken wisdom – which is brought about through fear of the face of the father, good, capital, the origin of being, the form of forms, and so forth – is a recourse to protection. Socrates proposes: ‘I thought that because I failed to understand true existence, I should be careful not to lose the eye of my soul. You know it is possible to injure your bodily eyes looking at the sun during an eclipse – so in my own case, I was afraid that my soul would be blinded if I looked at certain things. I figured it better to have recourse to the world of spoken wisdom and then seek the truth of things. In each case, I based myself on the spoken wisdom which I judged strongest…’

Hence, spoken wisdom is a resource. One must not only turn to it when the sun shines and threatens to burn out our eyes, one must turn away from the sun during an eclipse, when the star – dead, extinguished, or hidden – is more dangerous than ever.

Now it is time to let these yarns of suns and sons spin. We have moved from spoken wisdom to the father. We have beheld the master, the lord, the good-sun-capital-father. Later, within this same tissue, we will pull on the same strings, and witness the weaving or unravelling of other designs.

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I should like to point out that I myself wrote in 1946 on the doubtful veracity of Socratic philosophy and indeed interpretations of both Socrates and Plato:

'With Plato's account of Socrates, the difficulty is quite a different one from what it is in the case of Xenophon, namely, that it is very hard to judge how far Plato means to portray the historical Socrates, and how far he intends the person called "Socrates" in his dialogues to be merely the mouthpiece of his own opinions. Plato, in addition to being a philosopher, is an imaginative writer of great genius and charm. No one supposes, and he himself does not seriously pretend, that the conversations in his dialogues took place just as he records them.'

And elsewhere: 'It is the excellence of Plato as a writer of fiction that casts doubt on him as a historian. His Socrates is a consistent and extraordinarily interesting character, far beyond the power of most men to invent; but I think Plato could have invented him.'

So to say that we must be careful when reading translations of and analysis based upon this ancient Greek word or that ancient Greek concept is neither novel nor interesting. Particularly so when you write in such a turgid fashion. Once we remove the basic premise I put forth in 1946, there does not seem to be much left to your argument except a few puffs of smoke and rather smudged mirror.

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In fact, I really don't see what your point is at all. Have you written this purely to make me angry? As far as I can see, it really doesn't follow at all that spoken wisdom is like a father. And nor is it illuminating to say that we've mis-(or rather under-)interpreted the term 'spoken wisdom'. I really think drawing broad and vague comparisons with orphans only further obfuscates the matter. So Plato's Socrates thought the articulation of wisdom more beneficial than it's inscription. So what? Why drag in all this nonsense about about the good-sun-capital-father? You need to read a good bit more Bertrand Russell, my good man, and take a leaf out of his book. Clear and concise.

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Well. I think it should be perfectly obvious to all that you are far from conversant with the tradition of continental philosophy. And I think you will simply have to reconcile yourself to the fact that Our Good JikaJika never claimed to be presenting a systematic philosophy, with first principles or final theory. Think of it as a 'snippet of illumination' rather than a total argument. And I also think that while your own familiarity with Plato and Socrates may be comprehensive, many readers of these two philosophers, as well as readers of analyses and discourses based upon the assumptions of mis-(or as you prefer under-)interpretations of their ideas and terminology, may well benefit from analysing some of these misinterpretations. And I must say that I also enjoy this rhetorical style of philosophy; the penchant for paradox, metaphor, neologism and other forms of wordplay.

Are you saying that the Pharmakon series has nothing positive to contribute whatsoever?

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wow... some intense figures are visiting our site; russie, come on man, you said yourself philosophy was only something you got into when your brain had stopped working sharply enough to tackle mathematics, so dont get back into it now.
as for me, i think you are doing yourself a great diservice to start any conversation on wisdom without basing it on something unchangeable. i already gave you that hint, but you seem more interested in something variable...is it really wisdom itself you are after?

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Jack, if you're saying that we need to read texts more carefully, then that is something positive, but nothing new.

Perhaps jikajika should revise his/her communication strategy - the appeal to read texts more carefully is severely restricted by the desire to work with indefinite terminology and concepts, and undermined by the insistence on wordplay.

The leap in conceptions is very unclear. It seems to me the metaphors serve to confuse rather than clarify. In fact, many of the metaphors appear to be deliberately employed to confuse.

I think a significant part of the problem is that jikajika's style of argumentation requires very careful and close reading. And at the end of reading this style of argumentation, one is often unsure as to whether it was worthwhile. In this case, reading the Pharmakon series carefully in order to extract the argument that one should read texts more carefully is not worthwhile.

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Max, my brain stopped working sharply enough to tackle mathematics long ago. I'll comment on what I like.

I started no conversation, and you gave me no hint. On the whole, I find your contribution here to be more obscure than that of jikajika and Jack Derrida put together.

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Hey hey, great, look I don't have time to properly participate right now, I gotta go thrash a cricket ball around the nets for a while, but let me just say that I endorse Jack Derrida, and I think bertie is being a little straight-laced. Perhaps a little more conceptual flexibility is in order here.

And as for you Max... I think you mentioned something unchangeable in a previous thread, but I'm too lazy to look it up. What was it again? Was it love?

ps. I'm not after wisdom here. Not directly anyway. Here I sought to expose the slipperiness of French thinking. I think the case against Derrida is compelling, but thus far on this blog it is far from comprehensive. I at least will take a break from Derrida for now, but by all means carry on without me. Far greater feats await me... like VICTORY AT INDOOR CRICKET TONIGHT!

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i stand corrected bertie, please take no offense; i think you brought a breath of fresh air into a room stiffled by stinky french armpit cologne - in other words, i agree with your assessment of jikajika to a t. perhaps he planned it that way. in which case i commend him. in any case, i think cricket is a wonderful game. and when i say wonderful, i mean it; i even drag out the o sound. wooonderful.

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